>> JEFF: Folks who have registered. Hello, everyone, I am Jeff Martin, and I am a white 00:07 male with greying brown hair. Unfortunately, more grey than brown, and I am wearing glasses, 00:16 and I have behind me a winter scene, which I am wishing for. Welcome to our webinar, 00:29 and if I can, I'm just going to go over a few household items. If everyone would, please 00:34 remember to keep your mute -- make sure you're on mute, and if you would also, sometimes 00:43 it's best to keep everything going smoothly, if you would turn your video off as well. 00:51 It helps with our bandwidth and to make sure everything runs smoothly, so thank you for 00:56 doing that. I'm also going to point out too that if you move your cursor to the bottom 01:02 of your screen -- for those of you who haven't been doing Zoom that often -- if you move 01:08 your cursor to the bottom of the screen, you will see a chat icon, and that is how you 01:14 can use that if you want to ask questions or interact with each other. So please do 01:21 use the chat. We will be monitoring that. Before I introduce Cassandra, or have Cassandra 01:30 take over, I also want to remind everyone that we are going to have another -- this 01:35 is kind of a two-part series in this -- and so next thursday at 1:00 p.m. EST, we will 01:44 have the second part of Doing/Undoing. So, please, if you would register for that as 01:52 well, and I think that's it for now. Um, I am going to turn over to Cassandra. 02:00 >> PAM: Or Pam! >> JEFF: Or Pam! 02:04 >> PAM: That's ok. [laughter] So, I’m Pamela Block. I'm a disability anthropologist at 02:11 Western University in the Anthropology Department. I've been here just over a year after 17 years 02:18 teaching in disability studies, and in the health professions in a US university. These 02:26 webinars, today and next week's, Doing/Undoing Disability Ethnography and Performance, were 02:33 originally planned as in-person, co-sponsored sessions for the Canadian Anthropology Society 02:40 and the Canadian Disability Studies Association Meetings during the 2020 Federation for the 02:47 Humanities and Social Sciences Congress that was supposed to be at Western University last 02:53 May. I was on the Program Committe for CASCA and had organized all these events and more, 03:00 but the pandemic came, and the world changed, but I’m so very grateful to the American 03:05 Anthropological Association for providing a home for these wonderful sessions that allow 03:10 us to use disability wisdom to continue to make and perform art and scholarship during 03:16 a pandemic and broaden our definition of what constitutes ethnography. In this virtual gathering, 03:25 let's first take a moment to remember that we are all of us connected through the winds 03:30 and waters of our earth. Let us acknowledge Indigenous elders, past and present, and the 03:36 people who held the land of our homes and universities before the arrival of colonizers 03:41 and invaders. Western University, my university, is located on the traditional lands of the 03:49 Anishinaabe, the Haudenosaunee, and the Leni-Lunaape peoples. My image description is that of a 03:57 52-year-old woman with glasses and wavy salt & pepper hair, and a knitted shawl and a black 04:07 shirt. I am sitting in a dining room, slash, music room, slash, COVID office, and there 04:14 is various items in the room, including a piano, a guitar case, family photos, Hanukkah 04:21 preparations, masks. The shawl, I wanted to mention, is a present from Karli Whitmore 04:27 from CASCA, one of the presents she sent to thank the 2020 Program Committee for our efforts, 04:34 and the only way I can imagine the AAA topping this would be if they sent knitted items made 04:39 of yarn spun by Devva Kasnitz. So I’m going to introduce our two presenters today. 04:48 Cassandra Hartblay is a Assistant Professor at the University of Toronto, where she teaches 04:53 in the Undergraduate Department of Health and Society on the Scarborough Campus, and 04:59 in the Graduate Department of Anthropology. She is the Director of the new Research Center 05:04 for Global Disabilities Studies. Dr. Hartblay is -- identifies as a non-disabled ally to 05:12 disability justice movements and settler of European decent currently residing and working 05:17 in Toronto, the traditional homeland of the Huron-Wendat, the Seneca, and the Missasauguas 05:23 of the Credit River. Cass uses she/her or they/them pronouns. Her book, I WAS NEVER 05:31 ALONE, OR OPORNIKI: An Ethnographic Play on Disability in Russia has recently come out 05:39 with the University of Toronto Press and is available on the Press's website. We'll hear 05:45 excerpts from the book today, and Cass will circulate a discount code via chat, and she's 05:51 going to do that right now, which will provide a five dollar discount toward the purchases 05:56 of her book. On screen today, Cass appears as a white woman with short wavy hair and 06:03 brown eyes in a room with grey and brick walls and a plant in the background. 06:09 Megan Moodie is an Associate Professor of Anthropology at the University of California, 06:14 Santa Cruz. Trained as a political-legal anthropologist, in recent years she has focused on the role 06:20 creativity can play in ethnographic practice, and her essays, stories, and film reviews 06:26 have appeared in venues such as the Los Angeles Review of Books and the Chicago Quarterly 06:32 Review. This is her first screenplay, and it is being created in collaboration with 06:39 a group of disabled scholars and artists she founded called the Crip Creativity Co-Lab 06:44 for Medical Justice. Her visual description: I am a white woman with dark hair and dark 06:51 rimmed glasses. I have facial dystonia on the left side and an intermittent speech impediment, 06:58 including stuttering and slurring, as a result. I now pass the microphone and the camera over 07:05 to Cassandra. >> CASSANDRA: Hi, everyone. This is wonderful. 07:16 I'm so happy to be here. Thank you, Pam, for organizing this, and to the AAA for hosting, 07:25 and to all of those of you who are here. It's really a gift to be together in this virtual 07:30 way in this dark time of year in the midst of a pandemic, and I've been really bouyed 07:36 along and found a lot in the conversations that Megan and I have already begun around 07:42 this work, so I’m really glad to share this conversation with all of you. So my recent 07:47 book that Pam just mentioned, I WAS NEVER ALONE, OR OPORNIKI is arranged around the 07:53 script of a play. So while the book contains several other elements, like an accompanying 07:58 reflective essay and a description of the methodology in terms of bringing the script 08:04 to the stage and developing the work. Um, the play itself as George Marcus wrote in 08:11 the forward to the book is the thing. It's the reason for the book's existence and it's 08:15 the part of the book that is the most substantive, which is, as we know, somewhat unorthodox 08:22 for an anthropology book. So the script is composed of six scenes, each of which is a 08:29 portrait of a character who is based on a real person from my fieldwork with adults 08:33 with mobility and speech impairments in northwest Russia, and I conducted that fieldwork in 08:39 2012-2014, and then I wrote the play script at the same time that I was writing my dissertation 08:46 at UNC Chapel Hill in 2014-2015, and with the help of Joseph Megel, Director, who is 08:52 here today, I subsequently developed the script, and we worked on it through a series of readings 08:59 and stagings, including one in Chapel Hill in 2016, and then later that same year, in 09:06 -- at UC San Diego where I was a post-doc, and we received a generous grant that allowed 09:11 us to bring one of the research participants, Vladimir Rudak, from Russia to California, 09:13 to participate in the stage workshop, and you'll hear a few audio clips that were the 09:20 result of his residency in the reading today. I also got to stage a reading of the play 09:27 at Yale University as part of [indiscernible] Symposium in 2018 with Elise Morrison, and 09:33 each -- each of these iterations was a totally, collaborative unique process, and in the book, 09:40 I reflect on the unique vulnerability that emerges in the processing of staging an ethnographic 09:45 play, and the kinds of insights as the ethnographer that I got to receive about my field site 09:52 through the process of interpreting what my interlocutors had said along with the [indiscernible] 09:58 collaborators in the rehearsal space. So, following the work of performance studies 10:04 scholar, [name], in the book, I argue that rather than any finished product or moment 10:12 in the spotlight, the work that matters here is that development process. So, I'll leave 10:18 it here for now. If time allows later, I have a short excerpt from the book about the meaning 10:24 of the work's title that I'll be glad to share with you if you're interested, but right now, 10:28 I really want to share some performances of the script. So these performances will be 10:33 excerpts adapted for the format in time of today's setting. Which means that there are 10:40 segments of longer scenes, and they're kind of not going to give you the full narrative 10:45 arc of either scene or of the play as a whole, which is a 90-minute play all together. 10:51 And if you're familiar with Dieter, you'll recognize that this is sort of a virtual staged 10:56 reading format. If you're less familiar, you'll notice that in this iteration, the actors 11:02 will be reading along from the script as they perform, and this is a nice way for us to 11:07 share a semi-rehearsed performance without the longer rehearsal work that goes into a 11:12 full performance, and in some ways, I actually think it's apt for today's setting because 11:18 our subject matter is collaborative scripts. The fact that the performances are partially 11:24 read helps draw attention to the script itself that underlines the performance. 11:30 And finally, I'll also point out that in this play, and in this script, there's no ethnographer 11:36 character. Rather, the audience plays the role of the interviewer. So, as in many other 11:43 documentary theater works, the characters will speak directly to all of you as if you 11:48 were the one conducting the interview, and I give this warning because I've learned from 11:52 past experience that ethnographers need a little content warning before they accidentally 11:57 find themselves in the middle of someone else's fieldworks. So, that's a little joke based 12:02 on some fieldwork that I -- uh, some feedback that I got at the Yale performance: when a 12:06 room full of ethnographers were like, "Wow, I feel I really was in your fieldwork." But 12:11 now, I'd like to introduce our actors. So Meredith and Jason, maybe you could go ahead 12:18 and turn on your cameras for the introduction. Meredith Kimple is here today to reprise the 12:24 role of Anya, which she also played during the staged reading of I WAS NEVER ALONE at 12:30 UNC Chapel Hill. Meredith is a freelance writer, a sometime actor, and 2015 graduate of UNC 12:38 Chapel Hill, where she studied English and Drama. On screen today, Meredith appears seated 12:45 in an interior space. She's a young white woman with brown hair and blue eyes, who uses 12:52 a power wheelchair. Jason Dorwart joins us from Oberlin, Ohio, 12:55 where he is Visiting Assistant Professor of Theatre and Drama at Oberlin College. Jason 13:00 is a recipient of numerous awards for his scholarship, and a past member of Phamaly 13:05 theatre in Denver, Colorado. Today, he will reprise the role of Rudak, which he also played 13:12 in San Diego and in New Haven. And in the Zoom video frame, Jason appears as a white 13:18 man with greying beard and blue eyes, also in a sort of home office space. 13:23 So now, without further adieu, um, we will move into excerpts from I WAS NEVER ALONE. 13:37 [introductory guitar music] >> JASON: I only have a few minutes, and then 14:07 we have to start our sound check. If we don’t do it properly, the horns always drown out 14:12 my vocals! >> CASSANDRA: Rudak raises his voice on the 14:15 last phrase so that a man carrying a trumpet case to the stage in a small Russian cafe 14:21 turns and smirks at him. >> JASON: [chuckle] I've been with these guys 14:26 for years. At first, it was just me and the other guitarist. Then we found our bassist 14:32 - oh, he's a piece of work - once we had him, there was no going back. We added the horns 14:38 when we did our second album, and Live Journal was the third. Local releases. We only play 14:44 shows three, maybe four times a year, but we always get a good crowd. We're all busy: 14:51 I've got my film projects, the other guys all work normal jobs, the trumpet player is 14:56 also in the city orchestra. So it's enough that we get together and practice now and 15:02 then. Usually they come to me, or some of the guys come pick me up and carry me out 15:08 to one of their cars. Just like everyone else in this godforsaken 15:12 city, I live in one of the older buildings without -- without ramps, without elevators. 15:19 A couple of flights of concrete steps between me and the rest of the world. So if you want 15:26 to talk about disability access, I can tell you plenty about inaccess. 15:33 So you want to talk about disability access in our city? You heard the case at the train 15:39 station. The trains have these new accessible cars. Fully renovated. European style. State 15:45 of the art. But do you think you can get to the platform 15:49 in a wheelchair? Forget it. Two flights of long steps. AND --- they have these new tickets. 15:58 Reduced fares with your disability status card. But in order to buy one of these tickets, 16:04 you need to present your card in person to the ticket agent in the ticket hall. And where 16:11 do you think they put the new ticket hall? At the end of the platform, totally inaccessible 16:16 from the street, two flights of granite steps. [laughter] So as long as you have a wheelchair 16:23 that can also fly, you'll have a great experience Russian trains. 16:30 So Svetlana and the gang, we got together and wrote a letter to Moscow. And then we 16:37 wrote an official complaint. And eventually, bum-bum-bum-bum, seven months, a year later, 16:44 we finally get aresponse. From whatever official office in the city government. "The Train 16:51 Station will be made Fully Accessible for the Disabled in the course of the Next Scheduled 16:57 Renovation." That was a year ago. [laughter] So what do 17:03 you think has happened since then? Nothing! The reconstruction is scheduled to takes place 17:10 two years from now. Therefore, until that time, everything is frozen. But -- actually 17:17 -- nothing will happen -- I wouldn't even be surprised if nothing happens in two years. 17:25 But at least at the train station there are porters hanging around, and people carrying 17:29 suitcases. And they'll carry you up if you ask. What's worse is all of these store fronts. 17:36 Do you think the snotty 22-year-old at the shoe store is going to come out and carry 17:41 you up the steps? Forget it. Half the places have no accessibility elements at all -- just 17:49 steps. And then the other half are building these totally useless ramps that have no relationship 17:55 to reality. Why -- why are they cropping up, eh? Because 18:01 -- first of all, the people who are building these ramps, they're not doing this so that 18:06 -- they're doing it so that the ramp existed. So if someone asks them, "Do you have a ramp?" 18:14 Like, if someone asks -- not a person with a disability -- but a person, let's say, from 18:18 some kind of committee or something like that. Someone or other comes with a clipboard and 18:24 whatever documents, and they'll put a checkmark. That's it -- access for the disabled is accounted 18:33 for. I don't know about other countries, but in 18:37 Russia, when it comes to building ramps and entranceways, they don't ask us to be consultants 18:44 -- no one who is a representative of organizations that work with people with mobility impairments, 18:50 or people who are wheelchair users themselves. They -- create ramps that seem, like, to them, 19:00 what a ramp should be. They forget to install handrails, or they make a really steep incline, 19:08 like, or the ramp is just leaning up against a wall even. 19:14 ... This way of doing things, it's every man for himself. And -- these people think that 19:20 -- it'll never happen to them. That, so, you're sitting in a wheelchair, that's obvious, it's 19:28 how it's somehow supposed to be. But it's not something that ever could happen to me. 19:35 MNE?! Never. Not to him, or any of his family members. 19:43 So I bring it up, and people wave their hands and say, well, nothing is equipped around 19:50 here. Take a look around -- there's noing comfortable about living in a block of Soviet 19:55 concrete in the frozen north -- who cares if you're in a wheelchair or not! So the same 20:01 guys who are doing all of this -- building these useless ramps -- they're suffering too. 20:10 So if there's no way to do it cheaply, to save a little money, then it seems to them 20:17 that no one's ever going to show up and demand a working ramp. 20:21 >> CASSANDRA: The bassist and trumpet player cross, each with another amp, and begin setting 20:26 things down around the stage, plugging in cables. They confer for a second, then, look 20:31 to Rudak. >> CASSANDRA (as bandmate): Hey Rudak! What's 20:33 the story with the set list?? >> JASON: Whaddya askin' me now, pal, can't 20:37 you see I’m doing an interview?! [chuckles] We put the paper in the guitar case. Okay, 20:48 look -- but look. I know that this is a problem in other countries too, not just in Russia. 20:55 I was in Germany, when we pulled up to the bus station in the van. Someone had taken 21:01 the handicap space, just pulled in there, a regular car with no sticker. So it's not 21:08 just in Russia. But, you know, that's how people are. Your average guy wants things 21:14 to be convenient for himself, not for people with disabilities. And sometimes, even, he'll 21:21 hold it against you, "Ugh, come on." But if we were to trade lives and he had to live 21:29 life in a wheelchair, well, then he'd see what's so good about accessibility... 21:35 But no one wants to trade places. But, they also don't want to do anything to make life 21:42 easier for the guy in the wheelchair. No one cares about this problem... except for the 21:49 few of us that have to deal with it. Unless they're helping, pitying us poor helpless 21:57 cripples. Russia. 21:58 [in Russian accent] Rossiya!! I can get kind of romantic about it though. 22:08 Our Motherland. Have you heard our song? The one about Japan? Oh, it goes like this: 22:15 [humming] We'll play it. Later on. 22:23 [guitar music with Russian lyrics] >> CASSANDRA: Portrait six. Anya. In this 22:50 scene, Anya will be performed by Meredith, and her housemate who also performs personal 22:54 care duties will be read by the narrator. Now, into the scene. Lights come up on Anya's 22:59 scene. Anya's apartment is newly renovated, with textured wallpaper and a new refrigerator 23:04 with a small collection of magnets. There is a kitchen table, with a large bowl filled 23:08 with mandarin oranges and packets of cookies. Anya comes in, directing her wheelchair with 23:14 a small joystick. She is 35 and has neatly styled bobbed hair with bangs, and is wearing 23:19 lightly applied feminine make-up and delicate gold jewelry. The back of her wheelchair includes 23:24 a high headrest, and she sometimes leans her head against it, as if saving the muscle strength 23:30 in her neck for later. Anya turns in her chair to face the audience, 23:34 as if greeting a guest who has just come in. >> MEREDITH: So how do you like my new apartment? 23:39 [content sigh] It feels like it's been a long time coming. This is the common room. Uh, 23:46 there's no furniture yet, but I’m getting a sofa, probably, and then, I'll also put, 23:50 like, a bunch of folding chairs and and something like an easel with paper or a whiteboard in 23:54 here. So I'll be able to host rubric sessions and individual therapy here. I've got a home 24:01 office -- can you believe it? [content sigh] So, like I said, I've been trying for ages 24:08 to figure out how to do private practice on the side. I want to do counseling for everyone 24:13 -- people with disabilities and also people who are just normal. And group sessions too! 24:18 Why should I have separate groups? Moving here is good. Before, in my parent's apartment, 24:27 I had my own room. But I had the idea to live on my own, like... it was -- it was growing. 24:34 Growing-growing-growing inside of me for a long time. And then it sort of crashed over 24:41 me like a wave. ... It just flooded over me in one moment. 24:45 I was sitting in the kitchen in my parents' apartment with this one girl, as she had come 24:50 from Louhi, in this tiny village way up North, and she lived with us for a while. But then 24:56 with my nephews it got to be too much, so she moved out, but we liked each other, and 25:00 she had come to visit me. And she and I were talking. She is saying that she has to move 25:06 somewhere, but she doesn't make much money, and it's scary to move, to rent an apartment, 25:11 and everything. And I, like, I’m sitting there and saying to her, "Listen, like, do 25:16 you think it would be possible for us to live together? And I sort of inserted my own interests, 25:22 because I can't live alone, you know? Well, so -- and she, like, her eyes lit up, "Let's 25:28 do it! I’m in!" So I got her out of Louhi. And she lived here while we were doing the 25:34 renovation in the middle of the mess. What a disaster. Well, so, so basically I renovated 25:42 these rooms little by little, and then my friends decided to wallpaper for me... [sigh] 25:48 I knew I had to organize a workspace around myself, I mean at home, in a living space, 25:55 but there, at my parents' with kids, it didn't work. My nephews were always coming in and 26:03 out. And someone's always staying over. Or someone's coming to visit. Or my dad was roaming 26:10 around. It's just that -- you know -- when you live 26:15 with your parents -- it's one thing. You think, "Geez, where would I go?" You know. Parents 26:22 are parents. They meddle in everything. It has to be that way. They have to know. About 26:27 everything, you know, every last thing. And especially in my... in my situation, right? 26:34 I mean, shit, without my mom, I can't even put my underwear on. Or do the things I want 26:40 to do, ultimately. "Why did you put those ones on? Why didn't you put these ones on?" 26:48 "Well, I don't want to wear those! I wanted these ones." [sigh] 26:54 So... So that's... it's good to be here. Well, and like, the renovation took two months. 27:03 And it was... everything was ready somewhere around the end of February, and it was ready 27:08 to go. I could have moved in already. But then I had these long tortured conversations 27:15 with my dad. He wouldn't talk to me for two weeks, basically, he didn't talk to me at 27:22 all. He basically didn't talk to me at all. And then shit hit the fan. I don't remember 27:29 what it was about. He just started acting like a jerk, you know? Obviously, he has some 27:35 kind of intense overprotectiveness. I understand that he's afraid for me, he's really afraid. 27:42 So... And then he's worrying about all of it. And that he doesn't understand... My mom... 27:53 My mom more or less is the one who cares for me. It's hard for my mom. My mom said, "I’m 28:02 tired. Let's hope it goes well. Try it, and we'll see what happens." 28:07 I have to try, you understand. I won't live out my days with my parents. They're not immortal. 28:14 There's no avoiding that. Well, so. [sigh] I couldn't get past it all with him. With 28:22 my dad. And so, I kept my mouth shut, and I left. I wrote him a letter. My dad. Because, 28:30 you know, it had turned into the kind of situation where as soon as I started to say something, 28:34 he would just start yelling, and I would start to cry. So in it, I very plainly explained 28:41 -- in this letter -- like, "Papa. What did you raise me for and give me an education? 28:48 So that one day, you can say to me that I am too seriously ill? And that I can't do 28:54 anything for myself? You helped me get two -- two -- professional degrees. So what for? 29:03 So that they could hang out on the shelf? I want to do something, to change things somehow. 29:10 With -- with my own means. And while you are opposed -- while you are opposed to it, you 29:17 could be helping me to stand on my own two feet." 29:22 I just think about my friend. Her mother died. In two months, if you can imagine, her mom 29:30 died. So she was healthy, healthy, and then -- BAM! -- that's it. No mom. And the girl 29:38 was like, she was in my situation, pretty much the same, you know? She's 35 also. And 29:46 what happened? She was left with no one. She didn't have anyone at all... They were in 29:54 a hurry to find someone there who would care for her and everything. Is that how things 30:00 should be? I don't want that. Or worse, an institution. I want to already be somehow, 30:08 in some way prepared, so that I have some way of being on my own and everything. 30:14 So I say to my dad: "Papa, look, if it doesn't work out for me, then I'll come back and live 30:20 with you again. I'll live, dad, you know? Or else I'll say, Papa, ok, it didn't work 30:27 out." Yesterday, I went over for my things, and 30:32 then there he was, treating me like a stranger. I’m like, so this is how it's going to be, 30:40 like strangers? And I’m planning to go for spring holidays next weekend. And... a few 30:49 days ago, I went by with some friends and, it was a holiday, and when I came in, he was 30:56 sort of drunk. He was sitting on the couch in his room. I, like, go over and say, "Papa, 31:03 while I have five days off, I want to bring that other couch over." He's like, "Over where?" 31:11 And I say, "Papa, to the apartment of course." And I start to leave. And he's like, my dad 31:19 is like, "We'll bring you your fucking couch." "When will you bring it? Will you bring it 31:26 tomorrow?" He's like, "Okay, tomorrow." 31:30 My eyes basically fell out of my head, I was so surprised. 31:36 "My letter for you is lying there." And he says to me, "I read it." 31:44 And I say, "Good for you, you read it." He's like, "It's an inappropriate letter." 31:56 And I say, "Why? It's a perfectly appropriate letter. Why is it an inappropriate letter? 32:04 It's a perfectly appropriate letter!" >> CASSANDRA: Larissa, Anya's housemate and 32:09 helper from earlier in the scene, crosses, going from the back of the apartment to the 32:15 exit. When she's just off-stage, she yells back: An'! Don't forget the laundry detergent! 32:20 >> MEREDITH: Okay! See you later! >> CASSANDRA: Bye! Papa! 32:26 >> MEREDITH: So anyway, the couch will go over there. [sigh] 32:32 >> CASSANDRA: Anya rolls back into the main room. She turns her chair to face the audience, 32:37 as if looking out a large window. >> MEREDITH: I really like living on the first 32:42 floor. I can see everything from the window. And I have a ramp at the front stoop. They 32:50 already built it for me. I just have to get down the one set of stairs, and then off I 32:54 go. And I’m thinking about putting in a separate entrance right here, through the 33:02 balcony. You know, building a whole new entrance... a ramp with no stairs. I guess I have to write 33:08 to the Ministry. Write to the ministry and request that they build it for me. An adapted 33:16 exit, an accessible exit. Some kind of form or declaration, maybe an inspection. I don't 33:23 know what. But why not. I may as well try. Even if it takes forever. Yeah, that'll be 33:32 good. Imagine, I'll be sitting here, like, me, but 85 years old, just like I’m sitting 33:38 here now. [laughter] Fucking hell -- they'll come and say, "Anna Alekseevna, we have built 33:44 a ramp for you!" "Well, thank you, very much!" 33:57 [gentle guitar strumming] >> CASSANDRA: That was Jason Rudak and Meredith 34:06 Kimple reading excerpts from I WAS NEVER ALONE or Oporniki. Please join me in thanking our 34:14 performers for that reading and offering them a nice round of ASL applause. That was so 34:19 wonderful. Jason and Meredith, I'm so grateful for all that you bring to these roles and 34:24 for joining us for today's event. So, I’m going to pass this on now to Megan Moodie 34:29 who will share from her work, and just let you all know that we will be having a talk 34:35 back session in a separate Zoom room after this event, which I'll share in the chat now. 34:43 >> MEGAN: I’m Megan Moodie from UC Santa Cruz, and I live and work on the traditional, 34:51 unceded lands of the Uypi Tribe of the Awaswas Nation, today represented by the Amah Mutsun 34:58 Tribal Band, who are descendants of the people taken into missions Santa Cruz and San Juan 35:04 Bautista. First off, I want to thank Pamela Block and 35:11 the other panelists, both today and next week, for the privilege of participating in this 35:16 event. I’m especially grateful to Cassandra, whose conversation and encouragement have 35:23 already made a very formative role in this new project. I also want to thank the American 35:30 Anthropological Association for marking the 30th Anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities 35:37 Act, which is -- was this year, and I think because -- oddly -- because of the pandemic, 35:45 has perhaps not received the conversation that it should. Um, my most heartfelt thanks 35:53 go to Cynthia Croot, who directed the scenes that I'll be sharing today and who took a 35:58 huge leap of faith in taking on this project, and I still can't believe that I got to work 36:05 with such a -- with a team of immensely talented actors that bring this script to life. So 36:12 I want to thank [names] B. H., T. B., K. F., M. S., and K. B. We very much hope that you'll 36:24 join us for discussion. The link will be in the chat. Come join our Zoom room, conversation, 36:32 and afterparty, and I’m happy to talk about this project more at length, but the very 36:36 briefest introduction that I will -- um, that I'll say is that these are scenes from a feature-length 36:43 screenplay-in-progress that is part autobiography, part ethnography, and part narrative fiction. 36:51 The script, and pieces of the recording that we created today will go on and be used in 37:02 collaborative focus groups with other disabled women across the country, whose input will 37:07 become an important contribution to the ongoing writing process. Though I am the script writer 37:13 on the project, and it certainly draws from my own life, but the hope is that this story 37:19 is not singular, but rather brings to light the struggles and the humor and the rich, 37:25 complicated relationships of millions of women who live with undiagnosed or difficult-to-diagnose 37:31 chronic illness and pain. My email will also be in the chat if you can't join us afterwards, 37:38 and you'd like to ask any questions or make any comments. And with that, I will try this 37:44 very complicated screensharing thing. >> MEGAN: Hi, everyone. I guess I'm just gonna 38:08 call us back together to just share a moment, if you want to even turn on your cameras so 38:17 we can just all say hi, and I would love to invite you to check out the link for our Zoom 38:31 discussion. Cassandra has very graciously offered to host via the University of Toronto, 38:41 and we will take questions and comments and just have a discussion. I’m putting also 38:52 my email again in the chat. If you can't make the after-discussion and you have any feedback, 39:00 I would love to hear it, and I'm going to turn it back, I think, to Pam to wrap us up. 39:09 >> PAM: I think you actually did an excellent job. I don't have any more to add. Thank you 39:14 all for coming. It was great to -- to -- to, to have such a wonderful, large community 39:20 of participants, and I hope to see some of you in Cassandra's Zoom space soon. 39:29 >> JEFF: Also, I guess for those of you who are still here, remember, next Thursday! The 39:38 second part of Doing/Undoing. We'll see you then! Thanks, all! Up next